Why didn't I factor in the death rate? The simple answer is, I don't really know how to. In 1975 83,000 were baptized. i would have to factor in the death rate for 40 years. But then as time went by the death rate would be higher and higher as they got older. I just don't know how to go about doing that.
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United States baptism stats 1969-2015
by the comet inwhenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.
it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.
i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .
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United States baptism stats 1969-2015
by the comet inwhenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.
it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.
i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .
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Whenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures. It never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years. I, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. I didn't get baptized until i was 17.
What i wanted to do was add up all the baptism figures for the u.s in the last 70 years and see what that number would come out to. The first problem i ran into was, i couldn't find the baptism figures in the yearbooks pre the 1970 yearbook. So i started there. I went ahead and added Alaska and Hawaii to the u.s. figures, Alaska stopped reporting separate from the u.s. in the 2008 yearbook, and Hawaii in 2012.
Yearboook #baptized
1970------------29,954
1971------------39,445
1972------------40,814
1973------------48,428
1974------------56,190
1975------------83,038
1976------------72,607
1977------------44,244
1978------------28,276
1979------------20,711
1980------------27,187
1981------------28,028
1982------------28,715
1983------------34,011
1984------------36,630
1985------------35,912
1986------------34,677
1987------------42,161
1988------------39,519
1989------------43,519
1990------------48,769
1991------------47,697
1992------------44,984
1993------------41,170
1994-------------42,054
1995------------39,502
1996----------44,317
1997-----------44,060
1998----------45,607
1999----------37,673
2000----------32,871
2001---------30,536
2002---------27,973
2003---------30,112
2004---------30,584
2005---------30,989
2006---------28,628
2007---------29,140
2008---------37,509
2009---------35,804
2010---------34,842
2011--------35,516
2012---------32,953
2013---------32,039
2014---------32,118
2015----------36,034
2016----------28,353
grand total-----1,794,385 (check my math, I probably made a calculation error)
so in the 1970 yearbook the u.s. had 343,673 avg publishers, again no idea how many are unbaptized versus baptized. 2016 avg publisher count is1,195,081. Without figuring in death rates you have well over 500,000 people missing. My next project is, how many foreign language publishers and cong. are there in the u.s.
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Watchtower financial yearbook statements 1989-2016
by the comet insince the 2016 yearbook yearbook was released i've been tearing through the numbers, trying to figure a few things out.
i have several different projects i'm working on, and this is one of them.
i looked through all the yearbooks from the 1989 one through 2016, the only thing they really state about money is how much they spent on; special pioneers, missionaries, and traveling overseers.
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Watchtower financial yearbook statements 1989-2016
by the comet insince the 2016 yearbook yearbook was released i've been tearing through the numbers, trying to figure a few things out.
i have several different projects i'm working on, and this is one of them.
i looked through all the yearbooks from the 1989 one through 2016, the only thing they really state about money is how much they spent on; special pioneers, missionaries, and traveling overseers.
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Since the 2016 yearbook yearbook was released I've been tearing through the numbers, trying to figure a few things out. I have several different projects I'm working on, and this is one of them. I looked through all the yearbooks from the 1989 one through 2016, the only thing they really state about money is how much they spent on; special pioneers, missionaries, and traveling overseers. From 2002 and on, at least what i could find, they also say the number of branch workers worldwide.
A few things really stand out to me. The amount of money they're spending seems to be spiraling out of control. In 1989 they spent 29.8 million (remember this figure is just what they spend on special pioneers, missionaries and traveling overseers) adjusted for inflation its about 60 million. The number increases every year, as you would expect it to. If we jump to 2002 its at 70.9 million (96.6 million adjusted for inflation) a 41 million dollar increase. Jump ahead another 13 years, to 2015 its at 224 million or a 153 million dollar increase.
To put things in perspective, In the 1989 yearbook you had an average of 3,430,926 publishers worldwide. The 2016 yearbook had 7,987,279 avg publishers, an increase of 132%. During the same time span their spending increased, adjusted for inflation, 293%.
Looking at this you can really see why they have to downsize the number of special pioneers, the costs are getting out of control. Anyway i found some of this interesting, my next project is looking at total number of baptisms in the united states from 1970 through today, trying to figure out where did all those people go?
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Warwick -How much will it cost to build?
by TakeOffTheCrown inthere are some good minds on this forum.
how much will it cost, in your estimation, to build warwick?
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Somone with greater knowledge of performance bonds may be able to read that article and tell you more. They had a 33 million dollar performance bond for the project?
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Statistics - Spreadsheets - Opinion
by berrygerry inso, spent a fair bit of time on the stats.. the 2010-2015 numbers are available here: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0bwv5uvzb3-67axpzavk0m0nttfe&usp=sharing.
also there are spreadsheets of: ratios, peak-pubs, and the best is a combo of ratios, peak pubs & average pubs.. you can play with these by "select all" and "sort" according to your preference.. if you would like any other combination, i would try to create it and post it for you.. of interest:.
as has been noted, the biggest standout of 2015 is the increase of only 18k in peak pubs while having 260k baptized.
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the biggest standout of 2015 is the increase of only 18k in Peak Pubs while having 260k baptized.
So that means that (not counting for deaths) 242k JWs have left the religion!
That's fantastic news!!!
Thats is not really true. All people who get baptized are already counted as publishers, correct? So a young person could have been counted as an unbaptized publisher for the last 8 years and just this year get baptized.
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2016 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses
by wifibandit inthe 2016 yearbook is now on the official site.
pdf.
it has been added to the archive of all prior yearbooks.
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Weird...in the section of legal victories they forgot to mention Geoffrey Jackson's masterful Royal commission testimony. Shame, would have loved to read about it. -
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Good books to read?
by thedepressedsoul ini read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?
does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?
i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!
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Look for Bart Ehrman's books-misquoting Jesus, how Jesus became God and did Jesus exist. I'd also recommend Jerry coyne's books- why evolution is true and faith versus fact -
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Leah Remini's book, "Troublemaker"
by DisArmed injust finished leah remini's book, "troublemaker.
" very good book that easily resonates, i'm sure, with anyone who has exited a cult.
her life in scientology and eventual exit was a nightmare.
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Northern California Elder Charged with Lewd Acts with a Child
by cappytan inthis guy, dale standridge, was the coordinator of the body of elders in the eureka east congregation in humboltd county california.
http://johnchiv.blogspot.com/2015/11/100000-bail-for-dale-standbridge.html?m=1.
it's not getting a lot of play in the press for some reason.
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http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/506440003/cobe-arrested-child-abuse
This is was the thread about it